the music, the talent, the whole experience. and here i am in the studio, i had written a song for michael and he's standing there, telling me to be very hard on him, i want to do this exactly the way you see it, so stop me every time it's not the way you want it and so forth and we're just get into it, we're working together, and we ended up spending you know a week together in the studio. it was just unbelievable. >> what kind of man was he, for real? >> i thought that he -- first of all, was just a beautiful being. extremely professional. a perfectionist. still having the passion all those years later, you know? he would stay, work all day and night, come back the next day, all day and night. he hadn't lost that. a great father.